Tuesday’s HOA Meeting – A Breath of Fresh Air

The first open Board meeting with the new full Board was held Tuesday night.  This was easily the best open Board meeting we have attended in a very long time, a breath of fresh air.  Open communications was the main theme and they hit a home run.  A good turnout of 50 to 100 people was there and the comments we heard afterwards were all positive.

Following a brief introduction by Walt Tibbet, the Board President, the members announced their clearly defined roles.  Various committees are being established, including security, enforcement, welcoming.  Standing committees including Architectural review, landscape and golf course, will continue.  Mike McKenna, the treasurer committed to start providing regular budget and financial updates at subsequent meetings.

At the meeting our new Community Manager at Associa was introduced.  She is Angie Vinyard.  She can be reached at angie.vinyard@associa.us.  Her direct phone is 916-677-8312.

Most of the meeting was devoted to an update on the golf course given by Walt.  A letter to owners providing the information will be posted on Town Sq later this week.  We will post it here as well when it comes out.  Meanwhile, here are some highlights from Walt’s comments:

  • The HOA has given the golf course owners two proposals for possible ways the community could help assure the golf course remains a viable centerpiece of our community. The objective was a win-win by both parties. Both proposals were rejected.  A counter proposal was made requesting a subsidy of $5,750,000 over 10 years with no guarantee that the agreement would last 10 years.  This was deemed unacceptable.  Walt provided assurance that no agreement would be made without a vote of the entire Community.
  • Morgan Creek LLC has filed a preliminary planning request with Placer County to build 102 single family homes on the golf course property. The applicant has 12 months to provide required documentation as to the project’s viability.  This step is required before the formal planning process can start.  The documentation required is extensive.  One key requirement is Community input.  The Board has been in contact at all levels of the County, will closely monitor the process along with our attorneys, and is confident that, for many reasons, approval of such a development would be extremely expensive and has significant environmental and infrastructure obstacles to overcome.
  • On the plus side, relationships with the current on-site golf course management appear to be improving. Examples are: A bar service was set up to serve wine to the meeting attendees (This seemed well received.). It was announced that the clubhouse will remain open every Thursday evening for residents as long as there is demand.  There was also a suggestion of exploring a possible Morgan Creek golf tournament.
  • Nothing further has been done formally with the threat of legal action over easements and the location on the Pinehurst gate. As of this date no law suit has been filed.
  • According to Walt, the goal of the Board  is to restore the golf course to the world class centerpiece of the community it once was and can be again. He emphasized that the Board and the Community need to work together with current or future golf course owners to achieve this.

The open forum had a few comments centered on community safety and security.  The issue of speeders was again raised.  Chris Quam stated that the issue was high on his committee’s priority list.  The subject of break-ins was discussed, especially along the Vineyard corridor. Apparently, the pedestrian gates which are supposed to be locked at night are still not secure and can  be easily opened.  Residents were asked to leave their lights on to better enable surveillance cameras to identify trespassers.  Again, Chris said his committee had these issues high on their radar.

In summary, the new Board appears to have hit the ground running.  There was also talk of holding Community social functions and publishing a newsletter.  They are Community focused and seem to be supportive of open communications.  In our opinion they deserve our support.

7 thoughts on “Tuesday’s HOA Meeting – A Breath of Fresh Air”

  1. I find it interesting that when they put the golf course up for sale, I believe the real estate add mentioned “approved” for the houses development”. Sound like false advertising by the reality company. Isn’t there severe penalties for that?

    1. My mistake…they list 100 lots available to build your own custom home. There is 100 lots still available?

  2. Congratulations to the new board! Hopefully we can move forward, as a community, in a positive direction.
    A question…The Clubhouse remains open on Thursday evenings? Am I missing a good party?!? 🙂

    1. They are doing Thirsty Thursday Happy Hour at Morgan Creek. We are planning on trying it this Thursday the 28th around 5. Spread the word and come on down.

  3. I commend the new Board on what was, overall, a very positive first meeting. I hope they are committed to keeping their promises and maintaining transparency and open communications.

    Our new President Walt did a good job providing a short history of the golf course. He explained the negotiations with Morgan Creek LLC and provided an overview of the many challenges, expenses and obstacles that must be overcome to build homes on the golf course, including the County imposed necessity to address the concerns and organized opposition of the MC homeowners. His report was very positive and optimistic and I support everything the President said. However, I would caution everyone to beware of the ominous clouds swirling behind the blue sky portrayed by the Board regarding development of homes on the golf course.

    The truth that we were not told is that the primary owner of Morgan Creek LLC is Joe Syufy, who is a wealthy Bay Area Developer. Mr. Syufy made his fortune from the Century Theater chain which was sold in 2006. He then started purchasing golf courses and building a chain of upscale VillaSport Athletic Club and Spa fitness centers – Roseville is his 6th location with plans for many more. Mr Syufy has a reputation of being an aggressive, win at all costs bully. He has a lot more money than we do and is willing to spend it to win. He understands the development game so pre-development applications, department checklists, and EIRs do not intimidate him. He is quite formidable.

    Also, in addition to our HOA attorneys, we seem to have surrounded ourselves with a solid team of attorneys and consultants. What has not been disclosed is exactly how much the HOA has spent to date on all of this legal representation. I believe we were previously given the amount spent on attorneys (for all of their work) in 2018 compared to 2017. It seems that it would benefit the Board as well as the homeowners to isolate and track exactly what we have and are spending for legal representation on the golf course development and gateway easement issues separate from all other legal expenses. I fear that we will be defending against the threat of home development on our golf course for many months and maybe years into the future. We need to know exactly what this legal representation is costing us. How can the Board and homeowners make informed decisions if we do not have the numbers? The Board’s commitment to transparency certainly underscores the need to provide homeowners a running total of legal expenditures related to the golf course.

    With all that said, I to am optimistic. However, it is a disservice to us all if we are not informed of the dark as well as the bright sides of this issue.

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